Charles, using an American city like Chicago as an analogy to explain Hamas, Palestine, and Netanyahu to US citizens is brilliant.
I knew very little about the history of Palestine when the war started. I have since educated myself so I can better understand how Hamas was created. Because, like you said, Netanyahu helped create this terrorist organization. Trump has been trying to do the same thing here for the last decade with groups like the Proud Boys.
Thanks for such an outstanding explanation! I wish every American would read this.
If what Charles wrote squares with your newfound understanding of the situation then you are woefully misinformed. Netanyahu has definitely been a very bad (terrible, even) steward of the situation but Hamas isn't his creation and their actions can't be blamed on him. The explanation above magically absolves Hamas of their unspeakable, insane, barbarism and paints the IDF as evil when in fact they're simply trying to manage a giant insane asylum that's run by heavily armed death cultists. If America had to deal with something comparable, going by our history, the outcomes at least in terms of civilian death tolls would long since been an order of magnitude higher and most Americans would be cheering from the sidelines.
Explaining the origins of Hamas in no way absolves their actions. Their violence is not justifiable but possibly understandable. However, Netanyahu is far from innocent in this war. He is as evil as Hamas, or more so, in my opinion.
Your analogy is bizarrely devoid of all of the realities that Hamas is responsible for which renders it abjectly specious. So yes - as laid out - no decent person would sanction or approve of the antagonist you describe. But if you introduce a fanatical Islamist cult that's taken its own population hostage, revels in all their death (indeed does everything it can to maximize their death as the "national guard" strives to inflict as few civilian casualties as possible) - and is presently holding people hostage (many of whom it has already raped and murdered) and delights in the rhetoric of extermination and genocide and holy war... once you take all that on board then yes - the actions of the "national guard" become quite reasonable and most reasonable people agree that they're an unfortunate (indeed tragic) option in a list of terrible options.
If you want to be taken seriously by people who care about this conflict and actually give a shit about both sides (like, me, for example) you can't write a piece that looks like it was written by Hamas' propaganda machinery (or the Kremlin's?) and insist that the people who disagree with you are in favor of wanton murder when you've stripped away all the facts that make this conflict what it is.
Unless you're a paid shill you probably hope for a solution where everyone stops dying (right?) so - please reword this taking everything I said into account and show me what rational, reasonable, sane solution you can propose that makes it unnecessary for the IDF to resume their shelling given that the hostages are still not home and Hamas still has a firm grip on the Gazan Palestinians who are their prisoners.
Charles, using an American city like Chicago as an analogy to explain Hamas, Palestine, and Netanyahu to US citizens is brilliant.
I knew very little about the history of Palestine when the war started. I have since educated myself so I can better understand how Hamas was created. Because, like you said, Netanyahu helped create this terrorist organization. Trump has been trying to do the same thing here for the last decade with groups like the Proud Boys.
Thanks for such an outstanding explanation! I wish every American would read this.
If what Charles wrote squares with your newfound understanding of the situation then you are woefully misinformed. Netanyahu has definitely been a very bad (terrible, even) steward of the situation but Hamas isn't his creation and their actions can't be blamed on him. The explanation above magically absolves Hamas of their unspeakable, insane, barbarism and paints the IDF as evil when in fact they're simply trying to manage a giant insane asylum that's run by heavily armed death cultists. If America had to deal with something comparable, going by our history, the outcomes at least in terms of civilian death tolls would long since been an order of magnitude higher and most Americans would be cheering from the sidelines.
Explaining the origins of Hamas in no way absolves their actions. Their violence is not justifiable but possibly understandable. However, Netanyahu is far from innocent in this war. He is as evil as Hamas, or more so, in my opinion.
Your analogy is bizarrely devoid of all of the realities that Hamas is responsible for which renders it abjectly specious. So yes - as laid out - no decent person would sanction or approve of the antagonist you describe. But if you introduce a fanatical Islamist cult that's taken its own population hostage, revels in all their death (indeed does everything it can to maximize their death as the "national guard" strives to inflict as few civilian casualties as possible) - and is presently holding people hostage (many of whom it has already raped and murdered) and delights in the rhetoric of extermination and genocide and holy war... once you take all that on board then yes - the actions of the "national guard" become quite reasonable and most reasonable people agree that they're an unfortunate (indeed tragic) option in a list of terrible options.
If you want to be taken seriously by people who care about this conflict and actually give a shit about both sides (like, me, for example) you can't write a piece that looks like it was written by Hamas' propaganda machinery (or the Kremlin's?) and insist that the people who disagree with you are in favor of wanton murder when you've stripped away all the facts that make this conflict what it is.
Unless you're a paid shill you probably hope for a solution where everyone stops dying (right?) so - please reword this taking everything I said into account and show me what rational, reasonable, sane solution you can propose that makes it unnecessary for the IDF to resume their shelling given that the hostages are still not home and Hamas still has a firm grip on the Gazan Palestinians who are their prisoners.
If your takeaway is that I'm.defending Hamas, you're lost in your myopic world of Likud, and there is no point in holding a discussion with you.